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Shit We Don’t Talk About is the podcast that takes on topics we should be talking about more often and openly. Guests and topics will be incredibly diverse, sometimes painful, sometimes joyful but all things we need to talk about candidly to keep us all informed and connected. Some topics may be triggering so please listen with care.
Shit We Don't Talk About
Ep. 85 - Dr. Sam Graber - Part 1: The Joy Revolution: Reclaiming Menopause
Part 1 of a 2 Part Series: The silence around menopause has persisted for too long. Dr. Sam Graber, host of the Unraveling Together podcast, joins Mia to shatter misconceptions and empower women navigating this powerful life transition.
"To suffer is not to be female," Dr. Graber states emphatically, challenging generations of conditioning that has normalized women's discomfort. This eye-opening conversation reveals how the lack of research and open discussion about menopause has left countless women feeling confused, isolated, and pathologized for perfectly natural experiences. From brain fog to night sweats, these symptoms aren't mysterious curses—they're signals our bodies send when our complex hormonal systems respond to modern stressors.
What makes this discussion truly revolutionary is its focus on reclaiming personal power. Rather than outsourcing health decisions or focusing on external fixes, Dr. Graber encourages women to develop intuition about their own bodies. She shares practical insights about monitoring blood sugar, managing stress, and creating personalized health plans that honor individual needs. The conversation weaves together metabolic health, societal conditioning, and the joy that comes from embracing this transformative phase rather than merely enduring it.
Perhaps most powerful is the vision of community these women share. By breaking taboos and speaking openly about menopause, we create spaces for authentic connection and wisdom-sharing. As Dr. Graber explains, women's knowledge has historically been dismissed as "gossip," but these conversations are exactly what we need to heal collectively. Whether you're approaching perimenopause, deep in the transition, or simply want to understand the women in your life better, this episode offers invaluable perspective on honoring our cyclical nature in a world built for constant productivity.
Ready to transform your relationship with your changing body? Download Dr. Graber's free resources at drsamgraber.com and join the movement to reclaim the power of menopause.
More about Dr. Sam:
Dr. Sam Graber | Strategic Health Partner for Women 45+
I didn’t leave healthcare—I redefined my role within it. After years in clinical practice and transformational coaching, I now guide impact-driven women 45+ in creating Strategic Health Plans that match the level of care they give their businesses, families, and communities.
My work blends metabolic science, hormone optimization, mindset, and personalized strategy to help women reclaim energy, clarity, and confidence in midlife and beyond—without the one-size-fits-men approach of conventional healthcare.
I believe your body isn’t the problem—it’s the messenger. And sustainable health isn’t about restriction—it’s about realignment.
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Hey, welcome to the latest episode of Shit. We Don't Talk About the podcast that takes on topics that need more open and honest discussion, which means some of these topics are triggering. So please take care when listening and I'll always give you a trigger warning. For instance, here's one Every episode contains swear words. You've been warned. Make sure to check out the show notes, which include an accessibility transcript of the podcast and all of the links for our guests at shitwedonttalkaboutpodcastcom. My guest today is Dr Sam Graber. She's the host of the Unraveling Together podcast for rebellious midlife women. I love that, and she's just an overall smarty pants when it comes to midlife metabolism and menopause. This is the first in a two-part series, so enjoy. Hi, dr Sam.
Dr. Sam Graber:Hello Mia, Thank you for having me today.
Mia Voss:Listen, if I had a nickel or a dollar for every time I have a conversation about menopause, I'd have a shit ton of money, because it is just a constant conversation and I literally now will say out loud when somebody will say something, I'll be like, listen, I'm in menopause. You're going to have to tell me that again. I'm unapologetic about it.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, well, and it gives a different license right when you know. It's kind of we learn how to just be okay with ourselves because we literally just have to. And it's also gives us this license to be a little bolder and maybe say the things that possibly before we might have. Now we just don't have. That filter's gone, it's so refreshing.
Mia Voss:I can't recommend it enough and and we'll get into this, but one of the things I love about your work and the brand that your brand is that you are not talking about this as if it's a sentence or a bad diagnosis. You want to bring joy to women and then also the people that are around us to understand it, because that I mean we're going to talk about the. What is it? The wide knowledge gap when it comes to women's health and, specifically, the menopausal journey.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, very much so, and I think it's hard to imagine that it was purposefully done. But, as you know, you and I are both studiers of history and we are open-minded about things, and as you start to deconstruct things in your own life, in the life of others, it's really hard to imagine that there wasn't something purposeful to this whole situation, as we will call it now.
Mia Voss:Yes, I'm not a conspiracy theorist or a grassy knoll kind of girl, but I got to say I'm going with you on that.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, yes, and keeping things shrouded in mystery like menopause. We were taught that it's basically your period stops and you're no longer fertile, so you're no longer in your reproductive phase, Boom check. But there are so many other things that come with it that are seen on the positive side of the ledger as well as the challenging side of the ledger. But I look at the positive side like menopause, I think, was built in to us. It's like it's designed into us as a way of literally empowering and unleashing a different type of energy. Right Like I can see it in you and you're like, yeah, got it Light up.
Mia Voss:Oh, it's so true. And then and I agree, I think that a couple of things. I think that society really does like to keep us in our place by saying things. I mean you'll see it on social media. The second we make some kind of comment back to someone or step back to someone or say something with authority. It's, without a doubt, every single time your looks, your age, your this, your, that, I mean. That is the first weapon of insult that many, mostly men, will go to to try and take you down a peg about your viability as a valid human being and somebody who participates in society.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes to in society, yes, and unfortunately, women. We do it to other women but we do it to ourselves, which is, I think, just the the most, the saddest part of it all. I think you know the conditioning where we've been taught that it's, it's a we're in competition, or you know, like in yeah, I get it like in the cave people times you were competing for the viable male, for propagating the species and all that stuff. I get it anthropomorphically, if that's the word. But now it's like we still do it, like I see it, with women cutting each other down or looking in politics, you know, and it's always about she's too young, she's too old, she's too this. We have to stop it up in ourselves. So, yeah, many times we are, we do that and we, um, we judge ourselves. You know that's and that's the saddest part where we start buying into it, and we have bought into it our whole lives because it's all we knew. But there's that point, you know, like we got to shift it.
Mia Voss:We do it. It is baked into the system as well. When you look at and if you've listened to my podcast before, it isn't a podcast if I don't mention patriarchy. Yes, absolutely, it's built into it. But the piece where I know you really add to this is when you add in one conditioning, like we just talked about social conditioning, and then you add in the fact that we don't fucking feel good and we don't understand why we don't feel good. I had to F-bomb that one. That's how I'm feeling. That's absolutely worthy. It's really true. You add these combinations of oh my gosh, why does my hair feel this way? I mean, for me, one of the very, very first signs for me in perimenopause.
Mia Voss:First of all didn't even know what that was. I joked about who's Perry and how could I be in menopause? I think I was 40, oh gosh, maybe 47. And I had interviewed somebody talking about ADHD. And I'm listening to all the signs and I realized, holy shit, what is wrong with my brain? And that was one of my. The brain fog was one of my very first signs, and then night sweats. Didn't really get what was going on with that. But the changes are so sudden and for me personally, my journey of not having children. So I really had kind of been floating up till my forties. I hadn't had any problems with my period. I was very fortunate in that sense. But what a oh my gosh, what a stark awakening to the reality of how quickly things can change on a dime. It was frightening.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, yes, and get this like not all of that is tied to estrogen and progesterone or testosterone. It's not just our sex hormones. We've got other gals in there, like cortisol and insulin. You know insulin resistance is one of the foundations for why we have so much chronic disease in our world, in this modern world where, you know, supposedly we have the best health care in the world. You know so much of it is tied to insulin resistance, which is where, basically, we're producing enough insulin but because we have so much, we're hyperinsulinemic. That's too much insulin in the blood. Eventually our body is like too much, I cannot do it. So it creates the on this firewall essentially, and what that does is in that grows all sorts of other issues. And then cortisol being so high because we are stressed, because we're not eating real food. For the most part we're not sleeping well.
Mia Voss:It's this entire cycle that comes together, attention, economy. And I do want to ask a technical question, that with insulin resistance. Has a lot of this been on the uptick or the rise because of what you just talked about, which are outside factors?
Dr. Sam Graber:Like food and stressors? Yes, yeah, and I would say, you know, we'd have more of a diet. We know how to quote unquote, diagnose it. Even though I don't like to really call insulin a diagnosis or insulin resistance a diagnosis, it's a state of metabolic mayhem. Essentially, it's where you know the metabolism isn't working Well. Actually it is working the way it's supposed to, but the inputs coming in are really negative or too much for it. So I would say that you know this has been going on for a long, long time, but because of our lifestyle, and so much of it is because of what we call food that isn't actually food, yeah Right, and that's part of your work as well too is a very holistic standpoint, which I love as well.
Mia Voss:I'm sure there's resistance to that as well, too, because that's, you know, taking control of your own journey without having, you know, just saying this, is it Like this is the one pill I'm going to take or this is the one kind of I don't know treatment that I'm going to go with? So I think the hardest thing for me and I talk with a lot of people about it, because one of my big goals is to speak to younger women about it because we were so not empowered to start asking questions at a young age. It was just like this plug and play kind of thing with our system.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yeah, we were taught not to embrace our period. We just thought it was this inconvenient thing and it got in the way. Yes, Embarrassment Like it should be embarrassing, but if we don't understand the whole purpose of it and why, again, it was designed into us and it's not just for having children, or or not, or you know, whatever we want to say that it's just about reproduction. It's not. It's a way for us to detox. It's a way for us to detox.
Mia Voss:it's a way for us our energy changes, I mean, it's phenomenal pain levels, pain tolerance, right, I mean how much our, our, uh libido can ebb and flow, and all that. I saw something interesting yesterday. I was gonna cut and paste it for you. It said yeah, this this world is built on a. Women's are built on a monthly. We're're cyclical for a month, but men are on like a 24 hour cycle, and that's the way society is built to accommodate that. And that just blew my mind yes, and that's something.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yeah, and that was like, yeah, but, and the wild thing is, you know, we have more women who are in positions of leadership, owning companies, you know, taking on the world, because that's just what we do, and yet we're still functioning and operating in this system that is antiquated. It doesn't work for anybody really, because even men, men are I mean, they are they're getting the short end of the stick too. This entire system does not work for humans too. This entire system does not work for humans. It perpetuates a business, maybe in a capitalistic kind of way. Or production, production, production, but we don't have a lot of production, Unfortunately. We could have more in the US, which whole other topic, but it's a completely different world. In the services and in relationships, we need to be more on a cyclical kind of on this cycle kind of conversation, seasonal.
Mia Voss:Seasonal and exactly. And then what's great about that is that everybody's going to be a different cycle. So if I'm at my top, high performing, you can be over here having your hygge season. You know that H-Y-G-G-E like the winner, like that right. So just think what a beautiful ecosystem that would be if we weren't in this like late stage capitalism thing. I know we're getting esoteric, which I love.
Dr. Sam Graber:I love it.
Mia Voss:This actually is part of it, and I think what a great point you just made, too, that it's men and women that are exhausted, so we can have this conversation about menopause and not have to have it be just geared just towards women, right, that's a disservice.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, absolutely. And you know, if we're looking at the workplace, where we have, ideally we have a diverse workforce. We've got men and women of all different stages, you know, transition, people in transition, all sorts of things which could be such a beautiful landscape of humanity, right, and different people, different thoughts, different backgrounds, different religions, different philosophies. How cool would that be. But we kind of want everything to be just this, you know, monochromatic kind of thing. We kind of want everything to be just this monochromatic kind of thing. But if we all understand that this is a natural part of our evolution as a human and it can be absolutely beautiful when we're not stressed out to the max and I think it's the, you know, in all my years of doing this and being in my own body, it's the stress that has been the most detrimental. We need stress in a way, but we don't need it 24, seven, constant at us, all the time, no reprieve.
Mia Voss:Right, and I think this is why this conversation is so important, because we're at a crux of a pretty important time in history. We're coming at five years. This is just my, just a little. So give me, give me. We're coming at five years since the, the advent of the pandemic, which was a huge, huge life-changing fraud for so many things. I didn't even get a lot of it because not having children, I didn't realize the stress that were for parents and all these different things. So now we're coming off of sort of the normalization of it, but never addressed a lot of things. And then that showed a lot of cracks in the system, including women in places of power, because they were kind of like I'm tired, we've been fighting for this, so we have that piece, and then, of course, we have what's going on politically. So we really are kind of at a crux of the system's got to change. It does and it is.
Dr. Sam Graber:It is definitely yeah. And that brings me to something I did want to kind of make sure that we add in here. We feel very out of control pretty much everywhere in our lives, right? I mean, you'd look at the systems that are just imploding everywhere around us, or not knowing what the next Twitter or X or whatever feed is going to show us, or just really walking around on eggshells. We don't know what's coming. But there is one thing that we really can control and that's what we do, what we do with this, with our entity, and the most powerful lever that we can pull is what and when we eat. We really have so much more power than we think, and it's not power in that for me to have power, someone else must be weakened. It's just that abundance of power, it's an energy, and what we eat really does a lot to add to it or deter from it.
Mia Voss:And it's fueling. And let's jump into that one. I want to start with one thing that I think a lot of people don't realize why we have such the wide knowledge gap, and this affected me directly. I looked this up. So research on menopause significantly slowed down in 2002 when the Women's Health Initiative study was prematurely halted due to findings suggesting that combined HRT hormone replacement therapy increased the risk of breast cancer, stroke and blood clots. Right, I mean, it was like they just pulled the car over, which, quite frankly, 2002, I think I was 37. So that just.
Mia Voss:I mean, that was just built to fail for me and women of that age, and so I love that people like you are out there speaking loudly but also coming up with solutions, and this idea of fueling and we talked about it before we hit the start button was also that the care piece of this, this can you know? What can we do for ourselves?
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, and that's the most important thing. And I think when we get too caught up out there and we had talked about outsourcing, we've been taught, basically from the time we were, you know, we ones that you outsource to a doctor or to this supposed healthcare system, which is really just disease management, because they don't know what the hell to do with someone who's healthy. There's no, you're healthy. They're like oh, let's, we got to find something.
Mia Voss:Oh my God, you're totally right. We're not a product if we're not unhealthy.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, so we have to really opt out of that, but we have to do it wisely. You know, too many people say, well, I'm not going to the doctor. That's not necessarily it. Now, if you're, if you're doing things to feed yourself well, nourish yourself well, you are truly healthy. Well, maybe you just need you know the occasional testing. You want to know what's going on.
Dr. Sam Graber:There are metrics that really do give us some insight as to our level of health, but a lot of what's going on in that system is really just to ferret out what. Where is the thing we can treat, where is the thing that we can slap a drug on and and hopefully make it go away or at least manage it, or whatever it may be? You know, and many of the medications and tests that we routinely have done are just to get an end product into us, and that's the, that's the bottom line, and that kind of brings back to the study about women's health, and there were a lot of flaws in that, though, because they had to rule out all these other things, because when you do a study, you've got to have kind of a populace that has these commonalities, and women are complex commonalities and women are complex and that's why we didn't show up in a lot of research until just very recently. But it's still complex, as it should be. We are complex beings.
Dr. Sam Graber:We are Right, we have so many more pieces and parts yeah, we are so much more than pieces and parts but that's what we've called. Women's health is just our boobs and our vagina and our uterus and that's basically it. But we're, we have so many differences than that, yet similarities, you know. When it comes to metabolism, you know it's pretty pretty much a straightforward thing, but there are ways that we can feed and fuel and nourish ourselves and take periods of time where we're not constantly eating that we can do so much, so much good because over time, we've done so much damage.
Mia Voss:Right, what is that called? The oh, the intermittent fasting.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, yeah, For the right people it can be very, very helpful. And, and you know and that's my wheelhouse where I helped somebody know themselves, Like I was just on a call with a client earlier who's new to me and she's having all these massive ahas because she's like, hey, no one has ever taught me this. And she's a highly educated, very experienced, seasoned person. She's like no one's ever taught me this Not. In all my years I've been dismissed by doctors, which not all doctors are dismissive. There are a lot of really, really good ones. It's a system that really sucks, but over time she just didn't know these things and she's learning about herself and she's learning about cellular health.
Dr. Sam Graber:I got to give myself some props. I have a good way of explaining things to people where it makes sense. And then, once you know it, and once you have that knowledge, nobody can take it away from you and your bullshit meter gets a lot more finely honed. You know it's like wait a minute, that doesn't make sense. That's not how nature works, that's not how cells work. You know, right's not how the gut does its job. So you end up being less of a target for fancy marketing.
Mia Voss:Less of a target for fancy marketing. Wow, because you think about that. And we mentioned another thing before we started was how much money people are willing to put into products. You know that sort of exterior type of thing, and certainly with products in the health industry, and I think this is now more so with our current regime, with them dismantling I'm not saying everything works great in the government, but they're dismantling a lot of the guardrails and that's going to go with, like, the FDA right, the food and drug administration, even the USDA. I mean, there's a lot of things where what you are teaching and working with women right now are going to come in even more handy because of honing that intuition and then also figuring out because we said earlier, things were also complicated figuring out your own private blueprint. Right, absolutely, and I want to add, for you but it's really good.
Mia Voss:Well, so let's go through a scenario of, let's say, somebody you know, maybe the person you talked with earlier, or somebody that comes to you in their early forties, like you know. Talk me through some of the things that we can start doing to either talk to our younger friends or to ourselves, that we can do to start making this a positive journey.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, I think the one biggest thing is to know your normal quote unquote yeah, because they always say, well, what's normal, what's not? I don't know what's normal for a specific person. Now there are, there are commonalities, and we should feel good in our body. To suffer is not to be female. That is that those are not synonymous. And I think we are.
Dr. Sam Graber:We have been conditioned like oh, you're supposed to have cramps. Or if you have cramps, well you know, it's just, it's normal. Or you know having terrible energy or up and down moods, and you know all of that stuff happens because of internal things. It's not that we are necessarily wanting to present like that to the outside world. So it's knowing what feels right and what doesn't feel right to you, teaching younger people of just understanding that you are still a biological creature. I don't care how modernized we want to think we are in this world. We're still operating with a system that is not built for this world. So, instead of us seeking answers out there, learn to touch, touch base in here. Our intuition is is such a powerful part of us. But because over all the years we've been taught to believe the, you know the authorities out there, the mothers, fathers, teachers, preachers, doctors, you know all of those people, they know better.
Dr. Sam Graber:No, I don't agree with that. I think we really truly know at our core we've got to shed all the bull. You know, we just got to shed us, like. Like we have shed that skin, yeah, and and being able to talk about that, you know, have a few people that you can confide in and don't do the. What's that comparison? Itis where. Oh well, you know, mine isn't all that bad. I mean, she's been through this. Your trauma is as valid as anybody else's, and I'll say that again, your trauma is as valid as anybody else's, it doesn't matter. In the grand scheme, your body, your mind, your soul embodies these things.
Mia Voss:And you deserve care right, we deserve, we deserve care and nurturing for that too, and that that comparison game is is super dangerous.
Mia Voss:And you know, a great point to add to that, too, is when we, you know just that intuition and knowing what your right is doesn't mean that anybody else is necessarily wrong. But this is your North star, is where what your normal is and what your information is, and I I talk so much about that of, of, especially women, um, what the elder Gen Xers, things like that that was shamed, uh beaten out of us, uh like, uh, everything that to, to trust your intuition of like, nah, it's going to be fine. I mean, it really was a pretty insidious, uh smear tactic that's been going on for a while to get women to think that intuition is us being um hysterical or overreacting, uh shrill, uh problematic there's words, right, yeah, there's so many descriptions for that too when it literally is just and I think that's something we can implore upon people listening to is to also give grace to other people to let them use their intuition as well too. I mean, we stay in our damn lane as, unfortunately, not our vice president Tim Walls I was.
Mia Voss:We stay in our damn lane, as unfortunately not our vice president Tim Walls I was. You know, mind your damn business. And in that sense of let people you know, use their judgment as well too, and, I think, live by example too, of like no, this is this. My intuition is saying you know, this is not and you know also knows a complete sentence.
Dr. Sam Graber:So much. So yes, right, yes, and allow yourself, like always, look to nature and I'm a broken record with my clients, my friends, my family. I always look to food. What are you eating and not eating? You know when are you eating and not eating? Are you eating all the time? Because that keeps these, these chemicals inside of us, keeps these, these chemicals inside of us, these, you know our beautiful biochemistry. We need times of rest, just like in in our daily lives. We need times of rest, we need to be sleeping. You know, there there are like five, six things that if you're, if all your little levers are doing well, you're going to be doing well. But if one is off the chart somewhere, like stress and chronic stress, we need boundary or guardrails with stress, but they need to be present, otherwise we wouldn't have the same experience in life. But we don't need 24-7 constant stress, this darn thing, this thing, being in our hands all the time.
Mia Voss:That's just being on all the time. Yeah, and I think a lot of us have to even learn what rusting is, because a lot of times we'll think, okay, well, I'm just going to, I'm just going to sit over here and I'm going to catch up on some things. It's really not the whole idea. I'm guilty too. Oh my gosh, I'm. I'm a multitasker at heart. You know. I own a vagina. That's what we feel like we're contractually obligated to do is constantly be bombing stuff. So what would you say would be a good combination of somebody who feels fairly healthy but is going through brain fog or night sweats, and then those are some of the typical ones too, but there's so many different ways that menopause and perimenopause present. What would would be just a like a quick snapshot of between Western medicine, western medicine, eastern medicine. I'll say you know your typical ways to go about keeping yourself healthy. What are some good guidelines?
Dr. Sam Graber:The easiest thing, the most far, far reaching thing, is to look at your blood sugar yeah, what's your, your baseline level? And then what are those spikes, ups and downs? Because for us to get the ups and downs, there's also insulin coming along. Insulin is is a when in check is a good thing, but when a little out of control, she's very inflammatory. And then we got to look at stress and we may say, well, that doesn't stress me out, but what's happening inside of you? Like I've got this little aura ring thing.
Dr. Sam Graber:I really like it, even though I'm not big into technology, but it gives me insights as to how my body is dealing with stress at the moment, how I'm sleeping, and I really like it. And then, plus, I've yeah, yeah, it's like I've done that and then I've done, as a CGM so, a continuous glucose monitor that has helped me see the patterns with my stress and my blood sugar. It's like is is a blood sugar spike leading to stress, or am I stressed and cortisol is is going higher and that's going to tell us to release more glucose because I mean, we have a tiger chasing us right. So you need glucose in those muscles so you can run away from the tiger or at least outrun the other guy. So it's like you got to have these things.
Dr. Sam Graber:But the more you know that that's the cycle that's happening, we can A not freak out in our mind like, oh my God, the sky's falling, I'm sick or I'm having heart palpitations. Well, yeah, sometimes that's because of this chemistry that's going on. So that's why I feel it's important to become informed. Yeah, and in no. No, not only your body, but no, what's kind of expected what's kind of expected.
Mia Voss:Yes, that's a huge piece of it and you touched on it earlier of of that normalization of discomfort that that modern medicine is really it's. It's a really unfortunate thing and it's hard if you're I mean my God, I think about you know going to the doctor if you're sitting there in a paper gown with your match out and you're trying to cover your boobs.
Dr. Sam Graber:you can't think straight, I mean you got to prepare for that, like you're preparing for your annual board meeting and I give a sheet to my clients and say, you know, look here, ask these questions, these are things you need to know. And you sit there, you know, in all your glory, until you get those answers, but you've got to go in with basically it written out because, yeah, you know, in that situation it's a whole, it's uncomfortable and it's cold. Usually, yeah, you forget, like I don't think about that kind of stuff. But if I have it written down and know that this is like I teach my clients, there's your health plan. You fit in what you want from your health.
Dr. Sam Graber:It's not my job or my. You know, don't look to me for what it should be like in your life. What do you want your life to look like? And then, what kind of energy and nourishment do you need to meet that goal? And you know I break all this down with my clients because it's not a one size fits all. My clients, because it's not a one size fits all. It's literally it's a relationship that we develop over, say, probably a year's time for most people, because we got to unwash all the junk that we've learned, we need to teach and just find grounding and connect in a way, because women's wisdom is shared, you know, by us, between us, and we need to embrace that and learn how to love each other but also love the woman in the mirror.
Mia Voss:Yes, and I do think these sort of the red tent fireside, if you've ever seen this whole thing about how the word gossip was weaponized. Oh, yes, it's really interesting. Oh gosh, now I'm forgetting. Oh, this really really good book and I'll put it in the notes, but it's basically how words were. It's called Word Slut. That's what it's called Word Slut. Yeah, it's really interesting about this. The what is it? Etymology? I know one is bugs and one is words Etymology and etymology, I get them mixed up.
Dr. Sam Graber:Take a choice the one.
Mia Voss:I'm talking about is words. It's this historical weaponizing of words used for women. There's very, very few words used for men, and even when you do call them, that, it's usually a pejorative that you would call a woman Right. So you know. But the power of us in our spoken word and in our sharing of messages and really encouraging the intuition as well too, I think that's a huge, huge piece to it.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, very much so. Yeah, and this is fun, like we could keep talking and talking. I mean we could do like a series, because you know it is so important for us to share, share experiences that we have, you know, not just you and I on the screen, but the people watching and listening share our experiences from our heart and know that we're in a place where we can find our words around it. Because I know, many times with my clients I'll ask them well, what do you want? And I get the. I want to be healthy for my family and I want you know to be all these things for everybody else. And I'm like, oh, I so get that. You're very important.
Dr. Sam Graber:They, you know the world, they wouldn't know what to do without you, for sure. But what about for you? Like, what do you need as a human? Because you deserve to feel like you belong here, not just to serve others. And women forever have been valued for our relationship to others. We're either the wife of, the child of I mean, don't even get started on the whole that stuff, right, right, we've not been allowed to exist just because we exist, but we can in smaller groups, in these clans, where, in tribes or whatever people want to say. Safe spaces, yes, like be around people that that help you feel more you, and whether that's in groups, right, like in a church, in a family, um, family, if you're lucky, it's possible.
Mia Voss:A coven.
Dr. Sam Graber:A coven. Hello, we should bring back the coven. Oh my gosh, oh we really need it.
Mia Voss:Oh, that would just chap so many asses. I'm so-.
Dr. Sam Graber:I'm all for it. I'm still here for it.
Mia Voss:Where's it happening? Let me know the meeting. Send me the event that was Eventbrite or whatever.
Dr. Sam Graber:I'm in for that too, what it's been bright, or whatever.
Mia Voss:I'm in for that too.
Mia Voss:I hope it's happening. Y'all Just wait. Well, I think it really is. All kidding aside, I am seeing a really big emergence, unfortunately, because of the threat to democracy right now, I'm not even going to fine polish that turd at all, because that is what is going on and this is where the work that you're doing, the discussion that we're having, is even more so crucial, because it's, it's pretty, um, we're, we're being, we're being called all to, you know, kind of kind of step up in whatever way, shape or form that is, but knowing our normal feeling, good, feeling, healthy, right, I know I feel like I'm giving a Wonder Woman speech, but it really is.
Mia Voss:It's, it's pretty, it's my bracelets, I'm ready, let's do this. Got my lasso and the belt. Well, I love the idea of a series. So if you're watching this and you have some questions and I have a topic that you'd like to hear us address would be wonderful, I mean, I'm, I'm in for that. That could be a. You know, as you are going we talked about this before we, before we hit record your experiences in the conversations. You are out in the trenches, you are having these conversations, so the trends that you're seeing. I'd love to have you come back on and and help educate us on that too.
Dr. Sam Graber:I would love that.
Mia Voss:Thank you. All right, where can we find you and what's your next steps and what would be something that we could download on the quick fly that could start this journey for us? Perfect.
Dr. Sam Graber:Yes, the best way to connect with me is through my website, which, if you're viewing us, you'll see my name spelled here Dr Sam Graber, without the period after doctor, but drsamgrabercom. I have a free 10 tips that someone can just download. Download then a series of emails to help refine that education Because, like we've talked about, you have to know, you have to be educated and you want to find education that is not sponsored by somebody schlepping some product or pill or whatever it may be, or getting their name on the building that determines how research comes up. So get, get independent nature, you know, independently natured information so they can get my top 10 tips. I, everything I do, starts with the metabolism, so that's usually where I recommend people start. Sometimes I have masterclasses, sometimes I have events where they can attend, but if they opt into my system, I'll keep you guys all informed and I predominantly market to women, but I work with anyone of human DNA. All this stuff applies to men and women. I love everybody. I'm open to helping those who really want to be helped.
Mia Voss:Oh, let's give everybody a quick. I love it. Let's give everybody a quick lesson, I love it. Let's give everybody a quick lesson. What is male menopause called they?
Dr. Sam Graber:call it andropause, but yes, I mean, but a lot of that can be, just because, you know, testosterone gets out of hand, estrogen because of products we eat, things we slather on our body, that can shift it all. I mean that that could be a conversation we have about you know, just yeah, just how to naturally take care of our body and allow it to be healthy. You know, without all the fake stuff and the smelly smells. We're not supposed to smell like a well, they have like ocean breeze.
Dr. Sam Graber:Your vagina is not supposed to smell like a ocean breeze, oh my gosh.
Mia Voss:And hey, before we end this I usually do this at the beginning, but we're going to do it anyway I'm going to give everybody some quick identifiers. So I am a blonde, white female. My roots are showing who cares, you know what I mean. And uh, I'm uh, in in my sixties and and I've got a, a striped top on. How about you? What do you look like?
Dr. Sam Graber:Hey, I am a white female, age 53. I have silver hair which I have stopped dying years ago. I'm wearing a purple shirt and I have a green background and glasses, and glasses. Yes, thank you. Oh, I try. It's part of my fakery, but yes, and.
Mia Voss:I love how we both have like these big plants in the background. I love that. This is our shtick and I'm here for it. Hey, thanks for tuning in. You can check out the show notes and guest links at shitwedontalkaboutpodcastcom. If you liked this episode, please subscribe and give it a like or leave a review, especially if it's a good one. See you next time. Bye.